Comments on: rantings and musings

By: Neva Marjory

Neva Marjory — Sat, 08 Apr 2006 23:32:07 +0000

Little late with the thought.
Anyway, not eating animals because they are living things is a stupid
sentiment. And a little one-sided. Plants (fruits, veggies, nuts even
grains) are living things, aren’t they. They even have various
senses. Plants kept in the house show different reactions to
different kinds of music and they even know when you talk to them and
care about them.
So it would be a just thing to cut out eating plants, wouldn’t it,
the only question is if we want to die of hunger …
I certainly will go on eating all my O body requires.
Rose/Hun

By: jacobs100

jacobs100 — Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:07:04 +0000

In a message dated 9/6/2002 7:14:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rpartovi@… writes:
<< This is the first I’ve heard of this. What kind of sludge are we
talking about? You’re going to have to substantiate a claim like that.
Please give us a reference.
Will do. It’s been since I was studying Chemical engineering in school a
loooong time ago so I’ll have to do some research. The sludge is produced by
washing, reconstituting, and refining the metal back to useable aluminum.
Ditto for paper. Both processes generate a tremendous amount of sludge or
waste water that must be filtered/treated/diluted/disposed of.

By: Odis Johns

Odis Johns — Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:08:33 +0000

OK Max,
This is the first I’ve heard of this. What kind of sludge are we
talking about? You’re going to have to substantiate a claim like that.
Please give us a reference.
Thanks,
Ryan

By: jacobs100

jacobs100 — Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:35:21 +0000

In a message dated 9/6/2002 3:19:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
rpartovi@… writes:
<< Think about it. We kill one cow and eat for half a
year. They kill hundreds of insects with every loaf of bread. If all
animal lives are truly equal, as most vegans claim, then they are doing
far more damage than us.
They need to come over to my house, make a loaf of bread and kill some of my
insects. How about all of the wildlife, fish, people and other critters
poisoned and killed by the fertilizers and insecticides used to protect all
of the crops? Isn’t it true that there is a dead zone of 250 miles at the
mouth of the Mississippi where no sealife lives because of the effluent
fertilizer that drains off of all of the fields upstream? Of course, the
vegans said it was from all of that natural, organic cow manure washing down
the river–LOL–yeah right.
Man cannot live in an environment of his own filth and, among other things,

we are slowly poisoning ourselves with plant fertilizers and garbage
recycling. Do you realize that recycling aluminum cans and paper generates 7
times the sludge it takes to just dispose of it?
Max

By: Odis Johns

Odis Johns — Mon, 27 Mar 2006 12:36:49 +0000

Far more insects (and therefore animals) die in industrial agriculture
(even industrial organic agriculture) than die in the natural grassfed
grazing process of cows. This is a result of, as Axel says, “the grace
of our beasts.” Think about it. We kill one cow and eat for half a
year. They kill hundreds of insects with every loaf of bread. If all
animal lives are truly equal, as most vegans claim, then they are doing
far more damage than us.
Cheers,
Ryan

By: jacobs100

jacobs100 — Sun, 26 Mar 2006 06:03:37 +0000

In a message dated 9/5/2002 11:57:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
donnamae58@… writes:
<< The group I can have an empathy for is the vegan/vegetarian camp. True,
they are almost “religious” in their fervor, and they are quite overbearing.
For every one truly idealistic vegan who wants to make the world a better
place, I find 10 who just want to run everybodie’s life. It is where the
hall monitors and control freaks went after school was over.