Rice Protien/Thomas/Axel
Hi!
Thank you, Thomas & Axel. I love you both! This has been the best
reading in a long time. Kick some life and laughter into this
message board!
I have been using the Nutribiotics Rice Protein for a couple of
months now. I have had none of the digestive issues that I was
having with Soy and Whey. I have been losing weight steadily. I
feel fantastic and everyone is noticing and asking what I have been
doing.
I am anxiously awaiting the meal replacement bars! Thomas, you
better get a really big shipment when you get them. Luna Bars are
upsetting my stomach - which has gotten quite picky since starting
the BTD.
Axel, if you are 1/2 as interesting in person as you are on the
board, you should be able to find a great woman. Especially since
women outnumber men in Minneapolis!
Cheers,
Colleen
November 16th, 2004 at 2:10 am
Hi Ann,
I mix 1 cup Almond Milk, 2 Tablespoons Flax Oil, 2 heaping scoops of
Rice Protein, 6 ice cubes and 2 Tablespoons of Flax seed (sometimes I
grind them up and sometimes I leave them whole depending on laxative
needs)
Cheers,
Colleen
was what I was doing anyway - but I am just figuring out how to use
the protein powders. I generally have 3 eggs at BF (I have very low
cholesterol) + veggies, …..salmon, tuna or whatever at lunch with
salad, veggies and rye Krisp and meat, fish, poultry + veggies at
dinner. Also a bar or detox drink or two during day - rice based,
both. Usually @ 120 gm protein in a day
flax oil, 1 tbls ground flax seed and 1 c blueberries or raspberries
(frozen) but sugar is too high and I am hungry within the hour. Any
fruit seems to make me hungry.
May 21st, 2005 at 1:13 pm
I’m going to hide in square brackets this time, I don’t know why, I’m just
in the [mood]!
Hi Axel.
If you have been exercising all along this past few months, then I’d start
the ABCDE program that was featured in MUSCLE MEDIA a few years back.
If you haven’t, then just exercising alone (& food) will create the needed
GH boost.
[I have been exercising, but not hard enough to really challenge myself,
maintenance and for psychological health. Also, I have difficulty eating
enough food to support anabolism. This is my biggest dilemma. Well, I’m
pleased to report my gh-release is the easy part, I’ve made myself into a
growth hormone machine over the summer with the paleoithic dieting, that and
a simple glutamine-laced drink before bedtime makes for a gh-release that
turns my fat-burning engine on at that timed sleep-cycle 4-5 hour stage to
the point where I wake up with this surge of energy, I thought at first it
was a hypoglycemic insulin reaction (from ice creams ugliness; I don’t want
to talk about it), but I eventually figured out the difference, very
different feelings, different physiological situations, the body turned
itself on with to a higher gear than I knew what to deal with, burning up
its own fatty tissues (easy on low-carb) in my sleep, waking me up with the
energy! I think I might have to learn how to prevent that, or maybe I’m one
of those rare sleep-types. I have read of one women these sleep-researchers
documented over the course of a few weeks, she only needed about an hour of
sleep a day, average. She spent most of her nocturnal life reading and
knitting and other peaceful preoccupying hobbies. Incredible! But that’s a
whole ‘nother post. Anyway, I’m hip to the gh, no problemo.]
The ABCDE program is: overeat for 2 weeks followed by 2 weeks of dieting.
Bulk up phase: 20x your bodyweight
Dieting phase: in your case would be 1gr of protein/lb and some green
veggies.
[I’ve heard of this, the bulking and then refining. This could also be
applied to some “hard gainer” regimens I think. I don’t know. I don’t think
I’ll be doing any “dieting”, I’m so skinny and I burn it all up so well.
That’s what I’m good at, burning. Not storing, or growing. I did pack on
those pounds when I was 17-21 but… I was eating a LOT of foods, and
unhealthy foods; if I try to food-combine properly I have to dedicate myself
to meat for 4-5 hours afterward, unless I’ve really hit the spot in
strenuous exercise to speed up my gastric processes. So, 20x my bodyweight?
135, we’re talking pounds right? 2700 calories a day. Well, 1/4 pound of
beef is 306 calories, about 24g protein (regular ground, pan-fried, medium).
That would take 9 1/4 pound hamburgers for 2754 cal and 216 g protein (I’m
not worried about fat content). This is how I’m beginning to look at the
foods for building, figuring it as a sole source to see how it would add up
(makes it’s balance/unbalance more obvious). Way too much, could NEVER eat
that much! I could use my famous (to me) homemade mayonaisse, about 110
calories a tablespoon. The dieting phase, sounds like more than I eat on a
good day. Most animal flesh and cheeses have about 7g protein in an ounce,
well… to achieve grams in bodyweight I’d have to eat, 135 = almost 20
ounces. Okay, that might not be too difficult. 135 x 4 = 540 calories, so on
a 2700 calorie day protein would account for 20% of my calories, does the
percentage matter? Or is it amounts? I’ve never been fond of the
macronutrient ratios, even as a neurotic vegan/vegetarian I always ate a lot
more fat than the stupid low-fat dogma, and carbs in light of low-carb and
weight-loss makes me throw my hands up in disgust! But, if I ate 20%
calories from protein on a 2700 calorie day bulking phase, maybe I could
take some liberties with the carbs, of course, no percentages here, I’m an O
and after getting used to fat and protein I am leery of carbs, just enough
to keep my musculature “full”, I like glycogenated muscles! They look big,
feel good, stretch the skin out nice and make me powerful! Gee, I think it
takes over 100g carbs to get myself some glucose in them muscles, because I
tend to burn it, and the glucose goes to my brain and the liver takes some
so it can do its thang. Yeah, green veggies, I like them, make me feel good,
that’s how I’ll be eating more animal fat, fat vehicles. But this dieting
phase itself is a lot for me!]
The question is - what to eat while overeating? According to the
author -anything to get the amount of calories. We both know better. 5 to 6
“large meals” that consist of Axel friendly foods. It is up to you.
[I’m cringing! I’ve read people talking like this in the usenet newsgroups
(alt.sport.weightlifting and misc.fitness.weights). I was hoping for a magic
solution from a fellow BTDer. I see now my hopes were naive. Oh dear. Yes,
eating 5-6 “large meals” makes the prospect of 20x bodyweight seem a lot
more possible, but even with Axel friendly foods… sheesh! Maybe I’ve done
too much Yoga and fasting and weakling vegetarianism (I hate you you
freakin’ A). I use to eat so much food, not even when I was weight training
hard, just out of habit and I could, fast metabolism. But, I’m guessing I
wasn’t getting nearly as much nutrition out of it, because of improper
food-combining, to re-iterate: with my typical hamburgers (meat and starchy
wheat bun) and other disgusting American combos I was constipated yet had
very large stools, and going back to starch/carb & animal protein combos
after “clean” confirmed it, food-combining really allowed my stomach and
’stines to extract the most from the animal flesh, barely ANY stool resulted
(animal flesh is a whole food, not necessarily a complete food, but a whole
food that provides almost everything, flesh contains everything in flesh,
and digested flesh turns fairly directly into your own flesh). What I’m
hoping for is to still get away with eating less then the recommended,
because of a refined diet and greater assimilation of food. So, in the end
though I eat less food than in the recommended phases, I will still be able
to grow well because I’m essentially getting the equivalent quantities of
nutrients and building materials…]
I’ve eaten 10000 calories in one day once bulking up. That was a lot. 8000
calories daily was better.
[Uhhh. What kind of meal plan did you have on days when you ate over 3000
calories? I’ve probably eaten 3000 calories back in the days, to do that now
seems almost impossible. I’m thinking, if my carbs are easy, like fruit
juices, I could make those fast (only 24 hours in a day!), then solid REAL
proteins of course, those are very filling, and take a while to digest (at
least 3 hours for 3-4 ounces), liquid fats have a high calorie content, but
they slow the process of digestion. I just can’t see myself making it work.
I think if I can start out in the morning fast, keeping my metabolism revved
up I can eat a lot more, head start in eating and stoking the fire up for
the full day (people who eat a good breakfast have significantly higher
metabolisms throughout the rest of the day). Maybe my stomach will get
bigger once I start eating more, but even 2700 seems like a lot more than I
usually eat. In my “synthesis” post where I talk about how low-carb, type-O
and paleoithic (evolutionary) diets can all be smoothly integrated into
low-calorie eating for life-span extension, I wasn’t kidding, these foods
are very filling, that’s part of how low-carb works, the dieter looking to
lose weight will be very satiated because of the food. Well, I’ll start
earlier in the day and see if regular feedings can allow my body to get
hungrier more often and faster.]
Did I help?
PS: Me? under eating for a long time, did not work out, lots of stress =
less then 190lbs!!!!!!!!!!
I was up to 210lbs. Why am I so stupid?
[Yes, I will always want to hear in-depth from people who aware of
food-combining and don’t think people can shovel anything they like into
their body as if we are big garbage cans that can magically process garbage
into physical Self. Us BTDers and food-combiners are a very different breed
from the others, because of these dietary distinctions our food-world is
vastly different. That’s why I want to talk to people like you about my
goals. I hear you on losing, when I’m in a funk sometimes I don’t challenge
myself, even though after physical exertion I usually feel better. I take
breaks too. My delivery route has expanded and I’m easily walking 3-5 miles
a day. Well, down a bit but you sound like you have good mass. I’m not
looking to get to my muscle-bound 165-168 self, that former me will never be
again, and I was too hungry, all that extra muscle mass gave me a much
higher calorie requirement, too easy to become ravenous with all that red
meat on my bones; but I wonder, if I could magically go back in time and
bludgeon my younger self with Super-O nutritional knowledge, maybe I
could’ve eaten less, healthier, and be more satisfied at the same time?
You’ve given me something to think about, I haven’t played the numbers,
grams of protein, grams of carbs, grams of fat (not a concern except to get
enough calories on with the fat). I have little experience with being
conscious of numbers, always been skinny anyway, I’ll try to keep better
track.
Axel O+ secretor wondering how he’s going to fit all that food in during a
day!]