Pork
thanks, and sorry about the re: line; basic pork, like pork roast I don’t
think is usually processed, that used to be most of my meat, just wondered,
thanks again
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thanks, and sorry about the re: line; basic pork, like pork roast I don’t
think is usually processed, that used to be most of my meat, just wondered,
thanks again
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August 30th, 2003 at 11:13 am
I just checked Steve Shapiro’s “reasons” list and he says
Bacon/Ham/Pork:
Avoid for A and AB because of an antibody reaction
Avoid for O and B because they are A-like (also an antibody thing)
Take care,
Tabitha
List updated 3/00 and a link can be found on the website at www.er4yt.org
August 30th, 2003 at 12:16 pm
Thanks, I will go read more
August 31st, 2003 at 2:42 am
I can vaguely remember reading somewhere that pork triggers a Type A reaction
in the bloodstream, definitely something an “O” would not want. Other than
that, pork is just loaded with saturated fat!! Ugh!!
Kathleen
August 31st, 2003 at 12:54 pm
you guys are talking out of your hats…get facts first please…
yes, it triggers A-like reactions…no it is not loaded with saturated fats
anymore, no, it is not a processed product anymore than any other meat…
please research first…misconceptions are brutal to fix. and our community
becomes tainted and polluted with …well…crap.
thanks
just a concerned lurker.
August 31st, 2003 at 5:02 pm
or home grown pork! you are still talking about things you don’t know
about. organically grown meats are not laden with anything but what you
feed them.
September 1st, 2003 at 12:16 am
Well that “crap” as you put it, about it being loaded with nitrates and
antibiotics, came from Dr. D-land. And what I posted came from Steve
Shapiro’s page about the A-like and antibody reactions. If you have other
research to share, please cite your sources…and SIGN YOUR NAME NEXT TIME if
it means enough to you to bring it up.
Tabitha
I specified in my first post that I was talking only on my best instincts and
in my second post I specified where I got my information.
September 1st, 2003 at 1:16 am
relax…
pork is not the bad guy…bad info is and you didn’t site your sources
either! i am my own source…i raise them…remember us farmers? we give you
the stuff on your plate!
so go back to bed and take a pill.
unsigned as i choose.
September 1st, 2003 at 5:23 am
ps…Dr. D-land, as you so aptly put it is not always correct as we all
know.
September 1st, 2003 at 11:16 am
Just a quick response to all of this pork talk.My friend raises her own pigs
and I’ve never had a problem with the meat I get from her,the only shots she
gives them are their iron shots( I asked a vet why and discovered that the
little buggers are actually born anemic),I know what they eat since I help
feed them and I also grew up on a farm so I truly appreciate the work that
TRUE organic farmers have to do.The stuff you get in stores(even health food
stores) may be shot full of “vitamins ” under the premise of keeping the
entire herd healthy( which can be eliminated if space is given and the pigs
aren’t packed in like sardines).My rule is Eliminate Slowly from your diet
the things on the Avoid List then if needed eat small portions of your
favorite aviods to see if your body reacts, the detox process takes approx 3
months, depending on metabolism. I don’t eat pork as much as I used to but
if I want a small taste I know it’s ok.
All hail Farmers hey do truly fill my plate and yours : ) no disrespect or
puns intended.
Blessed Be,
Johna Delano
September 1st, 2003 at 8:19 pm
Well now we have an expert who is so willing to jump down peoples
throats at quotes from other sources (in this case Dr D) perhaps all
misconception and our errant ways will be corrected.
–
Steve - Cheltenham, UK
———
In love and light we are
In darkness we are no less
September 2nd, 2003 at 3:51 am
Hi Kathleen,
My aunt, who has always loved pork, had a heart attack 10 years ago
and had to do research on which pork cuts she was allowed to eat.
The parts of the pig that are considered lean and contain no more
saturated fat than chicken breast are:
Tenderloin, leg (fresh), shoulder, loin chop. (All of these cuts
should be properly trimmed of fat.)
As for Type O’s, Dr. D is going on the assumption that most of the
people on his program do not raise their own pigs. He’s assuming
that we buy our meat at the grocery store or from a meat market, and
he’s letting us know that this meat (processed, preserved and shot
full of God-knows-what) is not good for us. He issues the same
warnings about beef. Obviously, if you raise pigs and can walk out
back, kill your dinner, and eat it the same day, you have a different
situation.
However, I believe the “antibody” issue has to do with something
inherent in even fresh, lean pork. Just like how Type B’s don’t do
well with chicken.
“r,” perhaps you should take a pill. I can’t for the life of me
figure out what caused you to dump on the list the way you did. A
rational farmer’s perspective would have been very helpful.
Lynn
September 2nd, 2003 at 7:56 am
I’m a B lurker on this list, married to an O. Regarding pork, not only
is it an omnivorous animal and therefore loaded with toxins (you get
more and more of them the further up the food chain you go…whatever
they eat gets into their flesh within about 4 hours of consumption,
whereas cattle and other herbivores take about 24 hours due to much
longer digestion and removal of toxic wastes in the several stomachs)
but many if not most U.S. farmers are now feeding weanling pigs the
blood of their own kind (called Spray Dried Plasma Protein). This kind
of thing got the English in trouble with Mad Cow disease, and the scary
thing is that some U.S. ranchers are now feeding calves SDPP because it
uses a waste byproduct to put quick flesh on weaned calves…can you say
profit? No wonder Europe won’t accept U.S. export meat. New Zealand does
not permit SDPP to be fed to cattle, so my husband and I are trying to
find a source of trustworthy beef from New Zealand. Personally, the
thought of consuming the flesh of an animal that is being fed swine or
bovine blood (the medium of disease) really horrifies me, especially
swine, which are very close genetically to humans. There should be more
controls on this experimentation, since we appear to be the guinea pigs.
Tammrae
September 2nd, 2003 at 2:19 pm
lets hope so. why are you so defensive at correction of mis information
Steve? you like to shoot your mouth off about things but don’t accept
correction when you are wrong ? people should not take ANYONE’s word for
fact unless it is backed up and they seem to take you at your word so
easily…is this a case of the blind leading the stupid? people! get a brain
between you all. what makes Steve an expert on all this stuff is that YOU
let him carry you down whatever river he deems appropriate and you swallow
it all…hook line and sinker…grow up. this is the real world…where are
the credentials behind what you are accepting as truth?
September 2nd, 2003 at 6:26 pm
you all seem to take off down the river on the first boat available…what
is that? sorry but i was taught better.
September 2nd, 2003 at 10:33 pm
absolutely and if Dr D needs to correct his info about ASS U MING what we
are eating then so be it. we are from all walks of life not just cities
where they evidently don’t have good meats available.
September 3rd, 2003 at 6:47 am
T,
you might want to post a source for your info. as someone might jump down
your throat.
;.)
September 3rd, 2003 at 7:09 pm
i have never had any problem at all with non processed pork or any other
meat but i always buy and raise organic meats…
September 4th, 2003 at 1:30 pm
Hi, does anyone have the name and e-mail address of the list moderator?
Lynn
September 4th, 2003 at 10:26 pm
I am not being defensive about mis-information but being annoyed at your
attitude in your postings to this list and also suggesting that seen as
you were a farmer with first hand experience of raising pigs you could
impart some of your knowledge and expertise, hopefully, in a way that
would not offend people on this list.
We all have different sources for information, different experiences of
what is right for us. It is up to each of us as responsible members of
this list to respect other peoples views, and if we disagree to say so
in a polite manner. Abusive members can of course be banned from the
group by the moderator, an action that is usually kept to the last
resort as nobody wants to see people removed without good reason and
without giving them a chance to change and express themselves in a
reasonable manner. This whole situation seems to be based around one
topic, something that is obviously dear to you as it would appear to
also be your lively hood. Perhaps you could post on this subject in the
same manner and with the same intellectual thought as seen in your other
posts and not with such heated emotion.
I am not aware that I have ever done this and if I had would hope
someone would tell me in a reasonable way. As you have been so quick
this time to have a go at list members I wonder why, if I have been so
guilty before, have you not said anything before to me (or others).
I usually try and only offer sources of information so that people can
read and make there own choices…I am not an expert as I have stated on
this list before I have only been thanked for providing the links to
those sources, what people do with the information is up to them I do
not force my opinion on others…they have a mind/ brain of there own to
use. As this diet is based on the ER4YT book by Dr D’Adamo then that is
the primary source of information, otherwise there would be no point to
this list.
People have called for the moderator to take action because of your
attitude and the content of your messages, as the moderator of this
group I kindly ask that you refrain from attacking other list members.
If you persist then you leave little choice to be banned from the group
a sad call to have to make but for the sake of everyone else on the
list.
I hope this can be resolved in a sensible manner without resorting to
such actions. Any further discussion will take place off the list so as
not too fill the list with unnecessary and off topic posts.
–
Steve - Cheltenham, UK
———
In love and light we are
In darkness we are no less
September 6th, 2003 at 10:09 am
Thank you Steve!!!
I come to this site every day eager to learn and as a student of Holistic
Health, to share my little knowledge on natural health whenever possible. I
also joined this group to better my health; today after reading the messages
concerning PORK I got a pain in the upper part of my stomach which I only get
in very stressful situations and have not had for many years…I would be
very grateful situations like this one will never happen again!
As for pork, I have stopped eating it many years ago because it produces
bouts of acne as soon as I ingest it; the same thing happens to my 25 yr. old
son. We are O type blood with South American Indian/Portuguese-Spanish
ancestry.
Thanks again for your kindness and the unlimited resources you put at our
hands.
Teresa, Austin, TX
September 9th, 2003 at 11:05 am
thanks, your answer finally makes some sense.
September 9th, 2003 at 3:12 pm
Jeez, guys, I am so sorry I asked the question about pork, it seems to have
caused alot of problems! Next time, I’ll just figure it out for myself.
Thanks.
September 9th, 2003 at 9:51 pm
The problem wasn’t your question
And if you go figure it out for yourself we’ll get bored with nothing to
–
talk about
Steve - Cheltenham, UK
———
In love and light we are
In darkness we are no less
September 9th, 2003 at 11:26 pm
Thanks, I feel much better, and not quite so guilty. I still have not
Char
started eating pork again. too far to the store that has the right kind!!
September 10th, 2003 at 10:44 am
Don’t be sorry you asked a question. Sometimes it generates lively
discussion and most of the time it’s handled politely. Don’t let the actions
and opinions of one person (who has now been banned from the list) influence
your asking. It was obvious, at least to me, that EVERYTHING was something
to find fault with as far as this person was concerned. So keep asking, it’s
how we all learn. And I think you’ll find that most of us are very polite
people.
Tabitha