Soy

Yes, I have started making soy shakes, with today being my 2nd day. And
I can tell you, my body is not right with it. Also, I have added
nutritional yeast, so it could be the soy, the yeast, or both. Plus, I
am using tofu and also soy protein powder. So it could be either or
both. I do notice that the soy protein affects me more negatively than
the tofu.
And then I read that beef interferes with absorption of calcium? That is
one good reason to have soy - protein and calcium. What is a person to
do????? Pam and going crazy!!!!

4 Responses to “Soy”

  1. Odis Johns Says:

    You can have 25g (30g+ makes you hypothyroid) of soy each day.
    Cheers,
    Mr. Research ;)

  2. jacobs100 Says:

    The following article was in the AOL news. It’s a little long and I know it
    goes counter to much of the ER4YT information but, frankly, soy scares me
    because it permeates so many food products these days and is ingested
    regularly by the population. It’s in many processed foods just like wheat,
    corn, and complex carbohydrates. I think that the future may well bear out
    the claims that the 3 isoflavones found in soy that mimic estrogen may
    contribute to the cause for premature growth in our children, chonic illness
    in our population, and the general depression of our minds, as well as, our
    immune systems.
    I apologize for the length of this post but felt compelled to share my worry.
    Max
    Soy Formulas May Weaken Immune System
    By Salynn Boyles
    WebMd
    (May 20) — Fifteen percent of infants in the U.S. are fed soy-based

    formulas, and millions of women take soy supplements to ease the symptoms of
    menopause. Now, new animal research suggests a component of these products
    just may weaken the immune system.
    Mice fed the component genistein at lower levels than those found in infant
    soy formulas showed large decreases in two key markers of immune function.
    But researchers say more study is needed to determine if soy formulas and
    supplements really do depress immune response in people.
    “We are not trying to be alarmist here, and we aren’t suggesting that these
    products have a huge impact on the immune system in humans,” study author
    Paul S. Cooke, PhD, tells WebMD. “But this is the first direct evidence that
    soy produces these immune effects. And it suggests that this is something
    people need to be cautious about.”
    Genistein is the most prominent of three isoflavones found in soy.
    Isoflavones mimic the effect of the hormone estrogen, which is a known immune
    system suppressor. In earlier studies, Cooke and colleagues at the University
    of Illinois in Urbana saw a dramatic reduction in the size of the immune
    system organ called the thymus in mice injected with genistein. Immune
    function is largely determined by the thymus, which is involved in the
    development of immune system cells.
    In this study, the researchers examined immune system effects in mice fed
    diets high in the isoflavone. At levels similar to those found in soy-fed
    infants, genistein appeared to produce a large decrease in thymus size and
    immune cell function. The findings were published in the May 28 issue of the
    Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
    The study appears to contradict recently published research, sponsored by a
    soy formula manufacturer, suggesting that infants fed soy-based diets have
    normal immune development as measured by response to routine childhood
    immunizations. Infants fed soy-based formulas also demonstrated immune status
    similar to infants who were breastfed.
    But a Danish study assessing soy supplementation in postmenopausal women did
    find evidence of immune suppression. In that study, published last year,
    women who took standard doses of a synthetically derived soy supplement
    routinely experienced a decrease in disease-fighting white blood cells called
    lymphocytes. Lymphocyte counts returned to normal in most women after they
    stopped taking the supplement.
    “There have been very few studies looking at soy products and immune
    function, and the studies that have been done are mixed,” Cooke says. “At the
    very least, I think we need to take a closer look at immune function in
    adults fed soy-based formulas as children.”
    But pediatric nutrition expert Fima Lifshitz, MD, tells WebMD that there is
    no epidemiological evidence linking soy formulas with impaired immune
    function. He adds that most evidence suggests that babies fed soy-based diets
    develop normally. Lifshitz is a member of the American Academy of Pediatrics’
    nutrition committee and is the chief of nutrition sciences at Miami
    Children’s Hospital.
    “We all believe that mother’s milk is the best thing for babies, and cow’s
    milk-based formulas are my second choice because they are closer to mother’s
    milk,” he says. “But there is no evidence that people given soy formula as
    infants have any different outcome than those given milk-based formulas.
    Many, many people have grown up healthy on these formulas.”

  3. jacobs100 Says:

    In a message dated 6/10/2003 11:45:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
    ironwood55@… writes:
    << I am certainly confused about the soy issue. Dr D says soy is OK.
    The soy issue is confusing like many of the other topics. You have to read
    the articles and studies and decide for yourself. Soy comes with toxins. If
    the toxins are removed then the soy is less dangerous. Soy is far better for
    type As than Os. I find that dairy cream or heavy cream is much better for me
    to use than soy milk. I don’t use it very often but do when I need milk in a
    recipe.

  4. Ali Corene Says:

    Since I am awaiting my copy of LR4YBT, I am going by Christiano’s book.
    Someone mentioned that soy is not a great thing for either a secretor or
    non-secretor. Please elaborate on the soy thing. Thanks to Thomas who sent
    me the description of secretor.
    Thanks so much,
    Joy

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